1 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,789 ♪ All we do is hide away 2 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,551 ♪ All we do is, all we do is hide away 3 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,475 ♪ All we do is lie and wait 4 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,629 ♪ All we do is, all we do is lie and wait 5 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,475 ♪ I've been upside down 6 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,075 ♪ I don't wanna be the right way 'round 7 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,835 ♪ Can't find paradise on the ground ♪ 8 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:56,192 So, if David was at primary school in the mid-'50s, 9 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,192 we'd be looking at a possible abuser who's what? 10 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,000 In their early '80s now? 11 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,435 Which obviously rules out any of the people we're currently talking to. 12 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,954 Unless the murder was committed on behalf of the abuser. 13 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,270 What, a primary school teacher ordered a hit? 14 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,033 Walker allegedly confronted him 25 years later, 15 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:14,153 the teacher could have been anything by then. 16 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,390 With everything to lose if David had gone to the police. 17 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,989 Okay, well look, let's keep an open mind about that. 18 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,515 Okay, so Colin Osborne, 19 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,797 he worked at Klein Egerton in the late '80s, but then leaves. 20 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,192 Very suddenly. It's only about 21 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,915 a month or so, erm, before David died. 22 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:31,872 Now, it's probably a complete coincidence, but 23 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,397 - can you speak to them please? - Yeah. 24 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,070 And then Sara Alazi, 25 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,356 so she says that she was living in Rome 26 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:43,513 between, erm, March and December 1990. 27 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,028 Can you speak to the Border Agency, see if... 28 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,748 How we can confirm that. 29 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:51,478 - Yeah. - Well, I think... 30 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,188 Yeah, that's it. 31 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:55,549 Thanks everyone. 32 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,189 Go home now and sleep. 33 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,597 Okay, listen, I tell you what. 34 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,190 You put your pyjamas on, brush your teeth, 35 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,238 I'll be back upstairs in two minutes. Show me what a grown-up girl you are. 36 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:13,309 Okay? Good girl. 37 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:21,669 One other option. 38 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,316 You let him go to the police. 39 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,313 And then you just deny it. 40 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,238 You're a lawyer, he's a drug addict, who's just had his stepdaughter 41 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,038 taken away from him? 42 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,714 Why on Earth would the police believe a word he says? 43 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,271 And what if there was CCTV in the supermarket car park 44 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:41,509 or another witness? 45 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,079 - We could easily check the CC... - No. 46 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:45,309 Sorry. 47 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,351 But, this, this is the simplest way. 48 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:58,269 I love you. 49 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,750 And have you told me everything, Col? 50 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:10,870 - What do you mean? - That thing you do, 51 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:14,199 that you've always done... 52 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,596 That part of you, you keep from me. 53 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,834 I've told you everything, I promise. 54 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:26,518 Coming, ready or not. 55 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,390 Tess, I think we should postpone the holiday. 56 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,198 - Why? - I just think 57 00:04:41,280 --> 00:04:43,111 we're none of us in the right frame of mind, 58 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:44,428 you won't be able to relax and... 59 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,158 Why, why would I not be able to relax? 60 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:47,639 Well, because of what's happening at your work and... 61 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,075 Work's fine, why would I not be able to relax? 62 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:51,718 Do you know what he said to her before we arrived? 63 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,079 About wanting to hurt someone? 64 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:59,119 Listen, Jason is angry and confused... 65 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:00,792 And I get that, of course I do, 66 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,952 and you also have to get how that might spook a 15-year-old. 67 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,669 Well, yeah, maybe, until her dad very quickly reassured her that 68 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,911 Jason is simply trying to process an incredibly traumatic event, 69 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:15,312 and that, actually, he is the gentlest, kindest man in the world, 70 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,436 which obviously you did. Yeah? 71 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:20,989 Sure. 72 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:22,869 Yeah. 73 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:24,549 Good. 74 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:26,749 And are you okay? 75 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:31,519 I'm as fine as a woman who's 76 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,398 just learned her late husband was murdered is ever gonna be. 77 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,277 Paul, you don't seem to be really understanding that. 78 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:40,229 Well, no. 79 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,679 No, I have to admit I am finding certain things a little surprising. 80 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,115 Oh, oh, right, okay. What things are those? 81 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:49,792 Well, this all happened nearly 30 years ago. 82 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:50,869 It's another lifetime ago. 83 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,398 But it seems to be really affecting you. 84 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:55,595 Oh, right, okay. 85 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,432 And there's a manual, is there? 86 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,592 On how to deal with something like this? Am I not following the manual, Paul? 87 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:01,869 I don't know. 88 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,470 But I have to admit, you are 89 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,638 beginning to ever so slightly scare me. 90 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:12,668 Scare you? 91 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:13,909 And I'm wondering 92 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:15,877 if there's anything you need to tell me. 93 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:22,709 No. 94 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,232 There's nothing I need to tell you. 95 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,796 Sara, how nice to see you. 96 00:06:58,360 --> 00:06:59,509 Is everything okay? 97 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:00,869 Sara? 98 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:04,789 Hello? 99 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:10,549 I'll come down. 100 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:12,349 Thank you. 101 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:22,349 Jason? 102 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:24,678 - Hi. - Hi. 103 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:26,998 I'm DCI Cassie Stuart. 104 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,356 I'm leading the investigation into your father's death. 105 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,829 Can I just say how sorry I am for your loss. 106 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:35,269 Thank you. 107 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,833 Would... Would you like to, um, 108 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,196 go and find somewhere a bit more private? 109 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:43,269 No, I just... 110 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:44,998 I just wanted to know when I could visit him? 111 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:49,429 Right. 112 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,310 Are you really sure that's a good idea? 113 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:59,149 He's my dad. 114 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:01,668 No, I understand. 115 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:04,873 Better surely, to 116 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,672 remember him how he was. 117 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:09,914 Except, I don't. 118 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,470 Hardly, remember him how he was. 119 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,237 I mean my, my mum made me a memory box after he went. 120 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,391 Lots of stuff of his in it. 121 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,557 And there's a jumper in it that I used to smell, to remind me of him. 122 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,469 Except, it's gone now, the smell. 123 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:28,758 Used it all up, I guess. 124 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:34,158 And I actually need to see him. 125 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,436 I just... I just wanna be with him. 126 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:41,956 I want... I want to say goodbye. 127 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,629 Will you leave this with me? 128 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,752 Have you got a number I can call you back on? 129 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:59,872 Here, um, use the mobile. 130 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,599 Right. I'll come back to you as soon as I can. 131 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,597 Thank you, DCI Stuart. 132 00:09:08,680 --> 00:09:12,468 Cassie, please, and really there's no need for thanks. 133 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,438 All right, see you. 134 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,754 What year would that have been, Mr Gregory? 135 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,709 Uh, from when he was about seven, 136 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:36,398 till when the teacher left, 137 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:38,149 about a year later. 138 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,118 - So that would be, what, 1958? 1959? - Roughly. 139 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,157 Did Mr Walker give you the teacher's name? 140 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:44,229 No. 141 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,869 Or if he did tell me, I don't remember it. 142 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:50,639 Sorry to ask this, but 143 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,758 did he ever give you any specific details about the abuse? 144 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:55,429 It was bad. 145 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:56,909 Proper... 146 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:58,709 Rape and stuff. 147 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,629 Did he ever report it, or is there any record of it? 148 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,791 As far as I know, he told no one. 149 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,029 I mean, 150 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,078 kids just didn't then, did they? 151 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:09,593 Just kept it all in. 152 00:10:09,680 --> 00:10:12,353 Now you said to a colleague of mine, that you, 153 00:10:12,680 --> 00:10:16,275 "Often thought that it was why he lived his life the way he did." 154 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:17,349 What did you mean by that? 155 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:18,469 The women, 156 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:20,359 the drink and drugs, 157 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,392 to blot it all out, all that... 158 00:10:23,680 --> 00:10:24,908 Shame and guilt. 159 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:26,029 So he had drug issues? 160 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:28,712 Yeah, you could say that. 161 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,836 And did he have relationships outside his marriage? 162 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,434 Yes, he... He did have affairs. 163 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,353 But, mainly, I was talking about prostitutes. 164 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:39,389 Right. 165 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,789 In fact, that's kind of why we stopped seeing each other. 166 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,599 I wasn't remotely interested in that sort of thing 167 00:10:44,680 --> 00:10:47,114 and we just kind of drifted apart. 168 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,034 And this was when? 169 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:51,359 Mid-'80s, I guess? 170 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,396 But then, in about '87, 171 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,756 he rang me, out of the blue, and we hooked up again. 172 00:10:58,560 --> 00:11:01,518 We went out for a beer a few times, 173 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,955 which was when he told me about Firdown, 174 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:05,758 the school where it all happened. 175 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,990 Do you happen to know if he ever told his wife about 176 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:09,513 the things that happened to him there? 177 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,150 He told me he'd never been able to. 178 00:11:12,560 --> 00:11:13,788 For whatever reason, 179 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,953 the only people he ever spoke to about it, were me, 180 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,474 and when he tracked him down, 181 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:20,949 the teacher himself. 182 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,991 So, you know, for a fact, that he actually spoke to him? 183 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,119 He found out where he lived, 184 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:28,675 went to his house. 185 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:30,314 What did the teacher say? 186 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:31,953 Denied it all, of course. 187 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:33,754 Then got abusive, 188 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:35,998 then threatened him. 189 00:12:13,380 --> 00:12:15,132 My PA was meant to have called you. 190 00:12:15,220 --> 00:12:17,131 I'm so sorry, total cock up. 191 00:12:18,500 --> 00:12:20,013 My hands are tied, Tess. 192 00:12:21,460 --> 00:12:23,610 If you have access to any intelligence 193 00:12:23,700 --> 00:12:26,612 relating to the investigation, and it turned out that you were... 194 00:12:27,980 --> 00:12:28,969 In some way... 195 00:12:31,300 --> 00:12:32,938 So you can take a back office role. 196 00:12:34,700 --> 00:12:36,213 HR, training, 197 00:12:37,060 --> 00:12:39,016 or take some time off, take some leave. 198 00:12:43,460 --> 00:12:44,449 I'll stay. 199 00:12:52,940 --> 00:12:55,329 This was him about a year before he died. 200 00:12:56,820 --> 00:12:59,937 No, I don't recognise him, I'm afraid. 201 00:13:00,100 --> 00:13:01,089 Sorry. 202 00:13:04,980 --> 00:13:07,858 So, can you think of any reason 203 00:13:08,820 --> 00:13:10,378 why this address 204 00:13:10,660 --> 00:13:12,696 might have been written on a travel card 205 00:13:14,140 --> 00:13:15,653 found in his office desk? 206 00:13:20,020 --> 00:13:21,817 Absolutely no idea. 207 00:13:22,100 --> 00:13:23,215 When did you say he died? 208 00:13:23,300 --> 00:13:26,656 We think sometime about early May, 1990. 209 00:13:28,300 --> 00:13:30,052 Well, maybe the person that wrote this 210 00:13:30,140 --> 00:13:31,812 just wrote down the wrong address. 211 00:13:32,700 --> 00:13:34,850 Well, that's certainly a very real possibility. 212 00:13:35,940 --> 00:13:39,535 So, can I just check if anyone else was living here 213 00:13:40,300 --> 00:13:41,574 in 1990? 214 00:13:41,740 --> 00:13:44,652 Oh, it would have been just me and my husband. 215 00:13:44,740 --> 00:13:46,173 He's passed away now. 216 00:13:47,860 --> 00:13:49,851 Hang on, when was that time 217 00:13:49,940 --> 00:13:53,216 Daddy and I were in America, and Marion broke in? 218 00:13:59,660 --> 00:14:01,935 Mum was winding me up, and I knew it would annoy the arse off her 219 00:14:02,020 --> 00:14:04,136 to tell her that you meant more to me than her. 220 00:14:04,220 --> 00:14:05,209 So I did. 221 00:14:05,860 --> 00:14:08,135 Which is very sweet of you Zoe, 222 00:14:08,220 --> 00:14:09,733 and you mean an awful lot to me too, but 223 00:14:09,820 --> 00:14:12,129 all I'm saying, all anyone is saying, 224 00:14:13,180 --> 00:14:15,933 is we just need to keep that relationship professional, 225 00:14:16,020 --> 00:14:17,612 and within the boundaries of the hospital. 226 00:14:21,420 --> 00:14:22,409 Soz. 227 00:14:33,900 --> 00:14:35,219 I owe you an apology. 228 00:14:35,700 --> 00:14:36,689 What for? 229 00:14:36,780 --> 00:14:39,533 It was Zoe who told her parents about the phone conversation. 230 00:14:39,700 --> 00:14:43,295 Oh, right, not a problem. Listen, that's not why I'm calling. 231 00:14:44,460 --> 00:14:46,132 A police officer's just been round here. 232 00:14:47,900 --> 00:14:48,889 Sorry? 233 00:14:49,220 --> 00:14:50,812 Yeah, she'd already been 'round to your mum's, 234 00:14:50,900 --> 00:14:52,379 and then Elise gave her our address. 235 00:14:54,940 --> 00:14:55,929 What did she want? 236 00:14:56,140 --> 00:14:58,131 She said she was investigating an historic crime and 237 00:14:58,220 --> 00:15:00,450 that she wanted to ask you a couple of questions. 238 00:15:06,140 --> 00:15:08,973 She didn't tell me anything more than that, so I rang Elise. 239 00:15:09,060 --> 00:15:10,732 She said she'd been trying to get hold of you, 240 00:15:10,820 --> 00:15:13,288 but your mobile went straight to voicemail. 241 00:15:13,380 --> 00:15:14,369 I was on the ward. 242 00:15:14,460 --> 00:15:17,497 But Elise said she'd told her that it was about a murder, 243 00:15:17,660 --> 00:15:19,412 dating back to 1990. 244 00:15:20,140 --> 00:15:22,779 They've only just found the body, apparently. 245 00:15:25,180 --> 00:15:27,410 So her married name is Kelsey, 246 00:15:27,500 --> 00:15:29,411 but she was single in 1990. 247 00:15:29,500 --> 00:15:31,456 So run a check under her maiden name, 248 00:15:31,540 --> 00:15:33,929 which is Marion Dunphy? 249 00:15:34,020 --> 00:15:36,329 - Okay. - And how did it go with James Gregory? 250 00:15:37,140 --> 00:15:38,129 Interesting. 251 00:15:38,860 --> 00:15:42,136 According to him, David definitely did use prostitutes, 252 00:15:42,220 --> 00:15:43,938 and on a fairly industrial level. 253 00:15:45,100 --> 00:15:47,933 Oh, Jesus. Do you know, I just met his son this morning, 254 00:15:49,060 --> 00:15:50,857 what a nightmare this is going to be for him. 255 00:15:50,940 --> 00:15:52,692 Err, it's gonna gets worse. 256 00:15:52,860 --> 00:15:55,249 Walker was into some really weird stuff. 257 00:15:55,340 --> 00:15:56,329 Like? 258 00:15:57,100 --> 00:15:58,897 Violent kind of weird. 259 00:15:58,980 --> 00:16:00,698 Tying up, S and M stuff. 260 00:16:00,780 --> 00:16:04,295 And did Gregory think his wife knew about it? 261 00:16:04,540 --> 00:16:05,529 No, he thinks not. 262 00:16:06,980 --> 00:16:08,174 So, the other possibility is that 263 00:16:08,260 --> 00:16:10,820 he went too far with Sara Mahmoud, and she... 264 00:16:10,900 --> 00:16:12,777 She attacked him back, and then he... 265 00:16:13,060 --> 00:16:16,496 He died as she tried to defend herself in somehow. 266 00:16:20,620 --> 00:16:21,609 Er, okay. 267 00:16:22,060 --> 00:16:27,612 Okay. Can we just be very careful how we share this information, for now? 268 00:16:27,740 --> 00:16:28,729 Yeah, of course. 269 00:16:28,820 --> 00:16:32,779 And, obviously, we'll need to speak to Sara Mahmoud again, and Tessa Nixon. 270 00:16:33,020 --> 00:16:34,339 Yeah, I'll set both up. 271 00:16:34,460 --> 00:16:36,416 And what about Firdown, David's school? 272 00:16:36,940 --> 00:16:38,737 - I spoke to the current head. - And? 273 00:16:39,940 --> 00:16:41,419 She was suitably appalled. 274 00:16:41,500 --> 00:16:43,411 I mean, without a name, she wasn't sure how she could help us. 275 00:16:43,500 --> 00:16:46,173 This is abuse that is alleged to have occurred 276 00:16:46,260 --> 00:16:50,014 ten years before pretty much the oldest current teacher, was even born. 277 00:16:50,220 --> 00:16:51,209 Right. 278 00:16:52,660 --> 00:16:54,810 I mean even identifying a possible suspect 279 00:16:54,900 --> 00:16:56,174 is going to be as good as impossible. 280 00:16:56,260 --> 00:16:59,013 On top of that, there's a really good chance that 281 00:16:59,100 --> 00:17:01,295 whoever David Walker was talking about, is already dead. 282 00:17:01,380 --> 00:17:04,053 Mmm. Right, okay. I'll see you later. 283 00:17:33,980 --> 00:17:36,289 Colin Osborne and I both started on the same day, 284 00:17:36,380 --> 00:17:38,530 and we were kids, really. 285 00:17:38,620 --> 00:17:41,180 I'd come straight from Cambridge, Colin from Kingston. 286 00:17:41,420 --> 00:17:42,489 They recruited from a poly? 287 00:17:42,580 --> 00:17:44,411 - Oh, they took Colin. - Because? 288 00:17:44,860 --> 00:17:47,613 He got the highest marks in the aptitude test anyone had ever scored. 289 00:17:47,700 --> 00:17:49,053 And then he went on to do well here? 290 00:17:49,140 --> 00:17:50,129 He did extremely well. 291 00:17:50,660 --> 00:17:53,811 He worked ridiculously hard, but, more importantly, 292 00:17:53,900 --> 00:17:55,618 he had serious nuts. 293 00:17:55,860 --> 00:17:57,737 If he'd stayed, he'd have ended up running the place. 294 00:17:57,980 --> 00:18:00,175 Did you get any sense of why he did leave so suddenly? 295 00:18:00,260 --> 00:18:03,570 No, I mean, I worked with him and I liked him, 296 00:18:03,660 --> 00:18:05,890 but I didn't really know him well, 297 00:18:06,140 --> 00:18:07,539 he was quite a reserved man. 298 00:18:07,740 --> 00:18:09,571 One day he was here, the next he was just gone? 299 00:18:11,340 --> 00:18:13,012 Have you spoken to Colin about this? 300 00:18:14,100 --> 00:18:16,136 Mr Osborne's helping us with our enquiries. 301 00:18:17,620 --> 00:18:20,373 I'd need to take advice before answering any more questions. 302 00:18:20,460 --> 00:18:23,338 I'm not sure of our position on discussing Colin's departure. 303 00:18:23,420 --> 00:18:25,251 What's the best number for me to contact you on? 304 00:18:25,740 --> 00:18:28,049 Why don't I call you when you've spoken to who you need to? 305 00:18:28,620 --> 00:18:29,973 What's the best number to get you on? 306 00:18:49,100 --> 00:18:50,579 So if you could call us back 307 00:18:50,660 --> 00:18:52,139 when you pick this up, please, Mrs Mahmoud, 308 00:18:52,220 --> 00:18:54,017 it'd be good to talk further. 309 00:18:54,140 --> 00:18:55,129 Thank you. 310 00:18:57,780 --> 00:18:59,259 So if you could call us back 311 00:18:59,340 --> 00:19:00,819 when you pick this up, please, Mrs Mahmoud, 312 00:19:00,900 --> 00:19:02,697 it'd be good to talk further. 313 00:19:24,860 --> 00:19:25,849 Colin? 314 00:19:27,900 --> 00:19:31,654 Sorry, drifted off for a minute, what were you saying? 315 00:19:32,580 --> 00:19:35,299 Janet was just asking if there are any issues, 316 00:19:35,380 --> 00:19:37,974 any difficulties, anything at all that 317 00:19:38,060 --> 00:19:40,290 we feel it would be useful for her to know about. 318 00:19:40,380 --> 00:19:42,848 No, no difficulties at all. 319 00:19:45,700 --> 00:19:47,418 And how we doing at bedtimes? 320 00:19:47,580 --> 00:19:48,569 Us or Flo? 321 00:19:49,380 --> 00:19:50,369 Both. 322 00:19:51,820 --> 00:19:53,538 Yeah, no, good as gold, really. 323 00:19:53,620 --> 00:19:56,578 She sleeps really well, and is full of beans in the morning. 324 00:19:56,940 --> 00:19:58,578 And how are her nightmares? 325 00:19:58,660 --> 00:20:00,173 Hasn't had any. 326 00:20:00,340 --> 00:20:03,855 I think everything really changed when we got her here full-time. 327 00:20:37,220 --> 00:20:38,892 Hi, there, Marion Kelsey? 328 00:20:39,180 --> 00:20:40,169 Hello. 329 00:20:40,500 --> 00:20:41,979 DCI Cassie Stuart. 330 00:20:42,700 --> 00:20:44,338 Have you got five minutes for a quick chat? 331 00:20:45,260 --> 00:20:47,251 Oh, yes, yeah, sure. 332 00:20:58,780 --> 00:21:00,896 No. Sorry. Who is he? 333 00:21:01,140 --> 00:21:03,449 His name was David Walker. 334 00:21:05,220 --> 00:21:08,178 He ran a small chain of clubs in the '80s. 335 00:21:10,380 --> 00:21:12,018 Never been a clubber, myself. 336 00:21:14,660 --> 00:21:16,298 No, me neither. 337 00:21:16,820 --> 00:21:18,697 Music's always too loud for me. 338 00:21:21,260 --> 00:21:23,057 Well, obviously, as you know, 339 00:21:23,180 --> 00:21:27,014 we've spoken to your mum and sister, 340 00:21:27,700 --> 00:21:30,373 and she seemed to think that you might 341 00:21:30,460 --> 00:21:34,248 have been living in her house at some point in early 1990. 342 00:21:34,340 --> 00:21:35,329 Did she say I broke in? 343 00:21:37,420 --> 00:21:38,978 Well, she did, yes, actually. 344 00:21:39,060 --> 00:21:42,097 My father was on a lecture tour of America for three months and 345 00:21:42,180 --> 00:21:43,932 I was temporarily homeless, so, 346 00:21:44,780 --> 00:21:47,852 I had a key, let myself in, stayed there for a few days. 347 00:21:47,940 --> 00:21:49,578 - If that's breaking in... - Sure. 348 00:21:50,540 --> 00:21:52,178 Well, as you say, 349 00:21:52,260 --> 00:21:54,330 it couldn't have been her that gave that address out, 350 00:21:54,420 --> 00:21:57,173 because she was abroad, so could it have been you? 351 00:21:58,300 --> 00:21:59,289 Sure. 352 00:22:00,540 --> 00:22:01,529 Oh, okay. 353 00:22:03,380 --> 00:22:06,099 But you don't have any recollection of doing so. 354 00:22:07,140 --> 00:22:09,415 From some time in 1990? No, sorry. 355 00:22:09,500 --> 00:22:11,013 Okay, no problem. 356 00:22:11,420 --> 00:22:15,857 So your mum said that you left home in about 1985? 357 00:22:15,940 --> 00:22:16,929 Yup. 358 00:22:17,100 --> 00:22:18,931 - And you stayed in London? - Yup. 359 00:22:19,820 --> 00:22:20,809 Whereabouts? 360 00:22:22,380 --> 00:22:23,699 Various places. 361 00:22:25,660 --> 00:22:27,776 And was 32 Smoke Lane, one of them? 362 00:22:29,420 --> 00:22:30,819 I was there for a while, yeah. 363 00:22:32,620 --> 00:22:35,532 This was the address, in fact, that you gave after you were arrested 364 00:22:35,620 --> 00:22:37,258 in 1988 365 00:22:37,580 --> 00:22:39,332 for assaulting a police officer... 366 00:22:39,420 --> 00:22:40,409 I never assaulted anyone. 367 00:22:40,500 --> 00:22:42,377 At a demonstration in North London. 368 00:22:42,460 --> 00:22:44,132 A policeman attacked me, I was defending myself. 369 00:22:44,220 --> 00:22:45,733 For which you were found guilty at 370 00:22:45,820 --> 00:22:48,015 Horseferry Road Magistrates Court and fined 371 00:22:48,100 --> 00:22:49,215 one hundred pounds. 372 00:22:54,140 --> 00:22:55,459 You look like a smart woman, to me. 373 00:22:55,540 --> 00:22:56,575 I'm sure you couldn't be so 374 00:22:56,660 --> 00:22:59,128 spectacularly dim, as to suggest that a police officer 375 00:22:59,220 --> 00:23:00,209 from the '80s... 376 00:23:00,820 --> 00:23:04,051 Fuck it, from any point in the last 50 years, actually, couldn't have lied? 377 00:23:06,100 --> 00:23:08,056 I'm not sure why you're being so defensive, Marion. 378 00:23:08,420 --> 00:23:10,775 I'm being defensive because I was on a perfectly legal march, 379 00:23:10,860 --> 00:23:14,330 exercising my right to protest, and I was assaulted by a police officer. 380 00:23:14,420 --> 00:23:16,012 And you're now trying to imply that 381 00:23:16,100 --> 00:23:17,818 I have some kind of violent past. 382 00:23:18,420 --> 00:23:20,490 And that, therefore I must be connected 383 00:23:20,580 --> 00:23:23,458 in some way to this unfortunate man's tragic death. 384 00:23:23,540 --> 00:23:25,019 And I find that annoying. I'm sorry. 385 00:23:25,580 --> 00:23:27,218 Are we done, 'cause I have a very busy ward. 386 00:23:27,300 --> 00:23:28,733 - Sure. - Great. Nice to meet you. 387 00:23:28,860 --> 00:23:31,613 And you. And if we need to speak to you again... 388 00:23:33,900 --> 00:23:35,413 We'll get in touch. 389 00:23:43,060 --> 00:23:45,290 So there are no records that can confirm whether 390 00:23:45,380 --> 00:23:48,372 Sara Mahmoud-Alazi was or wasn't in the UK. 391 00:23:48,580 --> 00:23:50,775 We're checking with all the main airlines for flights to Rome 392 00:23:50,860 --> 00:23:53,215 in March, 1990, but I've been told not to hold my breath. 393 00:23:53,820 --> 00:23:56,129 Okay, keep pushing them, we do need 394 00:23:56,220 --> 00:23:58,370 to be able to confirm where she was 395 00:23:58,460 --> 00:24:00,337 - at the time of David Walker's death. - Absolutely. 396 00:24:00,420 --> 00:24:02,490 I've left her a message to call us back. 397 00:24:02,580 --> 00:24:05,492 Okay. Jake, where are we with the photos? 398 00:24:06,260 --> 00:24:07,932 I went through to Tessa Nixon's. 399 00:24:08,020 --> 00:24:09,692 Unfortunately, she said she chucked out 400 00:24:09,780 --> 00:24:11,975 most of the ones of her husband about 15 years ago. 401 00:24:12,740 --> 00:24:15,129 - Why? - Trying to lay ghosts to rest, she said. 402 00:24:15,260 --> 00:24:16,295 Or bury them. 403 00:24:16,620 --> 00:24:18,258 And I'm still waiting to hear back from 404 00:24:18,340 --> 00:24:20,251 the Tory Party offices about their photo archive. 405 00:24:20,340 --> 00:24:21,455 Okay. Murray? 406 00:24:21,540 --> 00:24:23,735 I spoke to a senior guy at Klein Egerton today and 407 00:24:23,820 --> 00:24:24,969 there's definitely something odd about 408 00:24:25,060 --> 00:24:26,288 Colin Osborne's departure. 409 00:24:26,380 --> 00:24:27,813 I don't know what it is yet, but 410 00:24:27,900 --> 00:24:29,970 my guess is that they're gonna close ranks. I'm on it. 411 00:24:30,140 --> 00:24:31,539 Right, good stuff. 412 00:24:31,660 --> 00:24:34,299 Okay, following my rather 413 00:24:34,740 --> 00:24:38,733 prickly chat with Marion Kelsey earlier, 414 00:24:39,780 --> 00:24:41,054 we ran a tenancy check 415 00:24:41,140 --> 00:24:43,893 on the Smoke Lane address and 416 00:24:44,740 --> 00:24:47,812 we've found, yes, one rather 417 00:24:48,980 --> 00:24:50,299 interesting result. 418 00:24:50,740 --> 00:24:55,018 So this is Sinead Mary Quinn. 419 00:24:55,660 --> 00:24:58,254 She lived at Smoke Lane from 1988 420 00:24:59,220 --> 00:25:00,494 to 1991. 421 00:25:01,020 --> 00:25:02,851 And then in 1992, 422 00:25:03,420 --> 00:25:05,411 Miss Quinn was in prison for ten years, 423 00:25:05,500 --> 00:25:08,412 for her role in suspected IRA activities. 424 00:25:10,780 --> 00:25:13,578 So we then went back to Marion Kelsey's arrest sheet, and 425 00:25:13,660 --> 00:25:16,254 discovered that the march she was on, 426 00:25:16,340 --> 00:25:17,489 was actually a protest march 427 00:25:17,580 --> 00:25:19,457 campaigning for the release of the Guildford Four. 428 00:25:19,740 --> 00:25:22,334 So we have one IRA activist, 429 00:25:22,580 --> 00:25:26,414 we have the murder of a Tory Party fundraiser and 430 00:25:26,500 --> 00:25:27,489 linking them both, 431 00:25:29,420 --> 00:25:30,978 we have Marion Kelsey. 432 00:25:33,380 --> 00:25:36,770 What did you tell them, what did you fucking tell them? 433 00:25:54,740 --> 00:25:55,775 Hi. 434 00:25:56,020 --> 00:25:57,738 So, since when did Monster Truck Mayhem become 435 00:25:57,820 --> 00:25:59,014 part of the Maths syllabus? 436 00:25:59,860 --> 00:26:01,896 - It's problem-solving, innit? - Oh. 437 00:26:03,380 --> 00:26:04,369 Confiscated, mate. 438 00:26:04,540 --> 00:26:05,529 Dad! 439 00:26:06,220 --> 00:26:08,859 He's addicted to this, we're gonna have to send him to the Priory. 440 00:26:08,940 --> 00:26:10,419 Omar rang this morning, 441 00:26:10,500 --> 00:26:12,456 said thank you for not sticking the petition back up. 442 00:26:12,540 --> 00:26:14,417 I apologised on your behalf, 443 00:26:14,500 --> 00:26:16,411 and told him that it must have been an oversight and 444 00:26:16,500 --> 00:26:19,139 that it would straight back up first thing tomorrow. 445 00:26:26,820 --> 00:26:27,855 Love? 446 00:26:28,300 --> 00:26:30,530 Yeah. Sorry. Back to normal tomorrow. 447 00:26:31,820 --> 00:26:32,855 It was a joke. 448 00:26:33,940 --> 00:26:34,929 Sorry, I'm tired. 449 00:26:36,540 --> 00:26:38,178 Do you want help with the interview later? 450 00:26:39,220 --> 00:26:40,972 Yeah, thanks. 451 00:26:42,740 --> 00:26:43,775 Are you all right? 452 00:26:44,300 --> 00:26:45,335 Yeah, fine. 453 00:26:50,460 --> 00:26:51,449 - Hass? - Yeah? 454 00:26:55,620 --> 00:26:57,019 I do love you. 455 00:26:58,580 --> 00:27:00,377 Well, luckily, I do love you, too. 456 00:27:01,340 --> 00:27:02,329 Lots. 457 00:27:09,100 --> 00:27:10,089 Hey. 458 00:27:11,260 --> 00:27:12,249 What you doing here? 459 00:27:13,260 --> 00:27:14,739 Nice to see you, too. 460 00:27:15,580 --> 00:27:16,569 It's our local. 461 00:27:17,700 --> 00:27:18,689 Our local? 462 00:27:19,780 --> 00:27:21,179 The other kids on the ward. 463 00:27:21,260 --> 00:27:22,739 Just trying to work out 464 00:27:22,820 --> 00:27:24,731 how many things are wrong with that sentence. 465 00:27:24,820 --> 00:27:26,811 They don't serve anyone under 16, 466 00:27:26,940 --> 00:27:28,453 they don't let us get twatted, 467 00:27:28,540 --> 00:27:30,929 and they make us sit out the back so no-one can see us. 468 00:27:31,020 --> 00:27:33,409 We tell 'em, what's the worst than can happen? 469 00:27:33,540 --> 00:27:34,893 We've all got cancer. 470 00:27:38,220 --> 00:27:40,211 Have you forgotten what we discussed this afternoon? 471 00:27:40,420 --> 00:27:41,899 This is hospital grounds. 472 00:27:42,180 --> 00:27:43,499 Near as, anyway. 473 00:27:43,860 --> 00:27:45,373 Malibu and orange, please. 474 00:27:53,420 --> 00:27:56,332 She sounded out of control, Tony. 475 00:27:56,580 --> 00:27:59,697 I mean, Mum was completely petrified, as was I. 476 00:28:00,420 --> 00:28:01,409 I'm so sorry. 477 00:28:01,740 --> 00:28:04,971 We never thought about why she came back, when she did. 478 00:28:05,260 --> 00:28:07,933 We were just so grateful that she did. 479 00:28:08,500 --> 00:28:11,731 But, I mean, you know, you don't think that she could... 480 00:28:11,820 --> 00:28:13,572 No, no, I don't. 481 00:28:13,660 --> 00:28:15,013 She could never have... 482 00:28:16,220 --> 00:28:17,209 No. 483 00:28:19,300 --> 00:28:21,860 Look I'll... I'll call you as soon as she gets in. Okay? 484 00:28:21,940 --> 00:28:22,929 Okay. 485 00:28:23,140 --> 00:28:24,129 Bye. 486 00:28:24,380 --> 00:28:25,369 Bye. 487 00:28:33,020 --> 00:28:36,979 Hi, this is Marion, I can't take your call right now, please leave a message. 488 00:28:37,740 --> 00:28:39,890 Why aren't you at home, talking to your husband about it? 489 00:28:41,300 --> 00:28:42,779 Talking to my husband about what? 490 00:28:44,740 --> 00:28:46,856 Whatever it is that's making you unhappy. 491 00:28:48,340 --> 00:28:49,329 Who says I'm unhappy. 492 00:28:50,700 --> 00:28:53,612 You're a 48-year-old woman, necking vodkas on your own, 493 00:28:53,700 --> 00:28:55,531 ninety minutes after your shift has ended. 494 00:28:58,380 --> 00:29:00,098 Do you think you know me, Zoe? 495 00:29:01,380 --> 00:29:03,052 - No. - Do you really think you have 496 00:29:03,140 --> 00:29:05,370 the first idea of who I really am? 497 00:29:06,500 --> 00:29:07,489 No. 498 00:29:08,340 --> 00:29:09,329 But I know fear. 499 00:29:10,740 --> 00:29:13,857 Trust me, I can spot fear a mile away. 500 00:29:17,340 --> 00:29:18,329 Hey... 501 00:29:19,580 --> 00:29:21,252 Hey, it's gonna be okay. 502 00:29:27,780 --> 00:29:28,769 You have no idea... 503 00:29:29,700 --> 00:29:31,975 Marion, please... Please don't cry. 504 00:29:34,420 --> 00:29:35,409 I gotta go. 505 00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:38,173 - You can talk to me. - Really? Can I? 506 00:29:39,020 --> 00:29:40,499 Please, I want to help you. 507 00:29:41,860 --> 00:29:43,578 You're not my friend, Zoe. 508 00:29:44,180 --> 00:29:45,329 You're not my daughter. 509 00:29:45,780 --> 00:29:48,578 You're just another patient, who I'll forget about as soon as you've gone. 510 00:29:50,020 --> 00:29:51,009 Grow up. 511 00:30:03,220 --> 00:30:04,619 And what did Tessa say? 512 00:30:04,700 --> 00:30:06,611 That she had absolutely no idea. 513 00:30:08,100 --> 00:30:09,658 And did you believe her? 514 00:30:09,740 --> 00:30:11,776 Well, it's hard to tell on the phone, but 515 00:30:11,860 --> 00:30:13,691 well, she seemed pretty stunned. 516 00:30:13,820 --> 00:30:16,892 And my guess is that James Gregory was right. 517 00:30:17,460 --> 00:30:19,610 David Walker never told her anything about the abuse. 518 00:30:19,700 --> 00:30:20,928 And did she give a reason for why she 519 00:30:21,020 --> 00:30:22,851 never gave us his best friend's name and number? 520 00:30:23,580 --> 00:30:27,129 Well, she said she didn't consider Gregory to be a close friend. 521 00:30:27,220 --> 00:30:29,780 Which is fair enough, I suppose, 522 00:30:29,860 --> 00:30:33,296 given the little contact that he and Walker had had. 523 00:30:35,940 --> 00:30:38,010 Or she just didn't want us to speak to him because 524 00:30:38,100 --> 00:30:39,818 what he told us gives her a motive. 525 00:30:40,620 --> 00:30:41,609 Maybe. 526 00:30:42,340 --> 00:30:44,649 Ugh, listen, boss, I've gotta go. 527 00:30:45,260 --> 00:30:46,693 I need to shout at my children. 528 00:30:47,340 --> 00:30:49,331 We also need to find Sinead Quinn. 529 00:30:50,220 --> 00:30:51,699 Yeah. First thing. 530 00:30:52,340 --> 00:30:53,329 Night, Sunny. 531 00:30:53,460 --> 00:30:54,449 Night, boss. 532 00:31:04,860 --> 00:31:05,849 - Hiya. - Oh. 533 00:31:06,380 --> 00:31:07,369 You scared me. 534 00:31:07,620 --> 00:31:09,576 Ditto. I've been calling you. 535 00:31:10,300 --> 00:31:12,370 Yeah, sorry, my phone was out of juice. 536 00:31:14,060 --> 00:31:15,379 How'd it go with the policewoman? 537 00:31:16,340 --> 00:31:18,695 Oh, yeah. No. It was fine. 538 00:31:19,460 --> 00:31:20,779 I didn't know the guy, so... 539 00:31:21,020 --> 00:31:22,009 Short and sweet. 540 00:31:22,340 --> 00:31:23,329 Right. 541 00:31:25,660 --> 00:31:27,218 So, where... Where you been? 542 00:31:27,300 --> 00:31:28,619 Your shift finishes at six, doesn't it? 543 00:31:28,700 --> 00:31:30,531 I went out with the girls. We had a few bevvies. 544 00:31:32,340 --> 00:31:33,693 Right, gonna have a bath. 545 00:31:33,980 --> 00:31:34,969 Maz? 546 00:31:41,620 --> 00:31:44,134 I... I've never pressed you, have I? 547 00:31:44,660 --> 00:31:45,934 To talk about the past. 548 00:31:47,300 --> 00:31:49,450 All those years you never saw your family. 549 00:31:50,500 --> 00:31:52,650 I've always just accepted that 550 00:31:53,620 --> 00:31:56,657 it was a part of you that you didn't wanna re-visit. 551 00:31:56,820 --> 00:32:00,495 But your sister rang and she said you were so unpleasant today, 552 00:32:01,020 --> 00:32:03,329 to her and to your mum. 553 00:32:05,380 --> 00:32:07,052 And I need to ask you, 554 00:32:08,180 --> 00:32:09,818 is there anything you wanna talk about? 555 00:32:15,460 --> 00:32:18,258 You make the past sound so much more interesting than it really is, Tony. 556 00:32:19,900 --> 00:32:22,175 Yeah, right. My parents liked my sister more than me. 557 00:32:22,260 --> 00:32:25,457 They got her in a way they didn't get me and that makes me angry and so we row. 558 00:32:28,500 --> 00:32:30,695 And that's it, I'm afraid. It's all rather boring. 559 00:32:33,300 --> 00:32:35,609 - Please don't walk away... - No, I'm tired and I want a bath. 560 00:32:35,700 --> 00:32:37,930 No, Maz. Every time. 561 00:32:38,300 --> 00:32:40,689 All our life, whenever the conversation gets difficult, 562 00:32:40,780 --> 00:32:42,532 - you just walk away. - Don't be tedious, love. 563 00:32:43,300 --> 00:32:45,336 Or get nasty. Or both. 564 00:32:47,780 --> 00:32:49,975 You know one day you're gonna come back... 565 00:32:53,100 --> 00:32:54,738 And find me gone. 566 00:33:25,020 --> 00:33:26,009 Hiya. 567 00:33:26,540 --> 00:33:29,612 Hi, love. Sorry, I thought you'd gone to bed already. 568 00:33:29,700 --> 00:33:30,689 Good day? 569 00:33:31,580 --> 00:33:32,569 Yup. 570 00:33:33,500 --> 00:33:35,695 - You? - Yeah. Yeah. You're late tonight? 571 00:33:35,780 --> 00:33:38,578 You said when I was 70 I could stay out until 11. 572 00:33:39,580 --> 00:33:40,569 Sorry. 573 00:33:44,300 --> 00:33:46,530 What were you doing in Winchester, Dad? 574 00:33:46,620 --> 00:33:49,498 I accidentally opened one of your bank statements, 575 00:33:49,820 --> 00:33:53,096 I saw a debit card payment to South West Trains. 576 00:33:53,180 --> 00:33:54,932 For a copper, you're a shit liar. 577 00:33:55,420 --> 00:33:56,409 Yeah, I got it from you. 578 00:33:59,380 --> 00:34:01,530 All right, I'll tell you. But 579 00:34:01,620 --> 00:34:03,895 I'd prefer not to talk about it afterwards, 580 00:34:04,820 --> 00:34:06,219 because I know what you're gonna say. 581 00:34:06,580 --> 00:34:07,569 Deal. 582 00:34:10,060 --> 00:34:11,049 I was looking for the bloke. 583 00:34:11,180 --> 00:34:12,169 What bloke? 584 00:34:15,060 --> 00:34:16,618 The one your mum was seeing. 585 00:34:19,420 --> 00:34:20,409 Are you serious? 586 00:34:20,660 --> 00:34:21,649 Yup. 587 00:34:25,820 --> 00:34:26,809 Okay. 588 00:34:27,780 --> 00:34:28,769 Why? 589 00:34:30,060 --> 00:34:33,052 You see, that's why I didn't wanna tell you, 590 00:34:34,420 --> 00:34:35,739 because I knew you wouldn't understand. 591 00:34:35,820 --> 00:34:36,809 I'm just asking why. 592 00:34:36,900 --> 00:34:39,050 I'm not, I'm not saying I don't understand. 593 00:34:39,140 --> 00:34:41,893 Well, yes? The fact that you need to ask "why", 594 00:34:41,980 --> 00:34:43,572 you are saying exactly that. 595 00:34:44,180 --> 00:34:45,169 So did you find him? 596 00:34:48,340 --> 00:34:50,695 I'm gonna go to bed. Night, love. 597 00:34:50,820 --> 00:34:51,809 Dad? 598 00:34:52,940 --> 00:34:54,896 Dad, don't be like that. 599 00:34:56,740 --> 00:34:59,208 Dad. Dad! 600 00:35:17,660 --> 00:35:18,649 This is it. 601 00:35:19,940 --> 00:35:21,134 There's no more coming. 602 00:35:21,860 --> 00:35:22,849 We don't want anymore. 603 00:35:24,100 --> 00:35:25,089 Thank you. 604 00:35:39,060 --> 00:35:41,255 I will be a good father, Tyler, 605 00:35:42,260 --> 00:35:44,012 and I am a good man. 606 00:35:44,940 --> 00:35:47,852 But if you ever do anything to jeopardise our adoption of Flo, 607 00:35:49,180 --> 00:35:52,058 if you ever threaten my family's future happiness again, 608 00:35:53,460 --> 00:35:54,449 I will hurt you. 609 00:35:55,620 --> 00:35:58,896 I will hurt you very. Fucking. Badly. 610 00:36:13,740 --> 00:36:14,889 What is going on, Col? 611 00:36:17,180 --> 00:36:19,375 But why didn't you tell me before? 612 00:36:19,460 --> 00:36:21,928 That I was also being interviewed in connection with a murder? 613 00:36:22,020 --> 00:36:23,089 I was terrified, Simon. 614 00:36:23,740 --> 00:36:25,378 And if Tyler had have gone to the police 615 00:36:26,060 --> 00:36:28,051 and told them about me keying the car 616 00:36:28,140 --> 00:36:31,496 and some sharp-eyed copper had cross-referenced the two cases, 617 00:36:33,620 --> 00:36:37,738 Janet and her department would be about to finalise an adoption 618 00:36:37,900 --> 00:36:41,210 by a man being interviewed in connection with two violent crimes, 619 00:36:41,300 --> 00:36:43,052 and we would have lost her Simon. 620 00:36:43,540 --> 00:36:45,735 But I swear I know nothing about this body. 621 00:36:47,220 --> 00:36:48,209 On Flo's life, 622 00:36:49,100 --> 00:36:51,011 I have never heard of David Walker, 623 00:36:51,140 --> 00:36:54,337 and I have absolutely no idea how he died. 624 00:36:57,980 --> 00:36:59,459 - Boss? - Mmm, yeah? 625 00:36:59,540 --> 00:37:02,896 I've just got these from the Fulham Party Headquarters. 626 00:37:02,980 --> 00:37:05,938 They had these in old scrapbooks, 627 00:37:06,020 --> 00:37:10,138 from the publicity of various magazines and newspapers. 628 00:37:10,900 --> 00:37:12,219 Their society sections. 629 00:37:12,940 --> 00:37:17,092 This one is from Hello! Magazine diary section. 630 00:37:18,180 --> 00:37:19,852 Look at the caption below. 631 00:37:24,260 --> 00:37:26,774 "Nightlife Supremo David Walker 632 00:37:30,180 --> 00:37:32,694 "and party donor Colin Osborne 633 00:37:32,780 --> 00:37:35,135 "at the CP Valentine's Day Ball." 634 00:37:35,220 --> 00:37:36,858 The plot thickens, boss. 635 00:37:37,260 --> 00:37:38,978 The plot bloody well thickens. 636 00:37:50,060 --> 00:37:51,334 So tell us, Ms Mahmoud, 637 00:37:51,420 --> 00:37:53,456 the recent Ofsted report identified 638 00:37:53,540 --> 00:37:56,100 Highbrook as having a serious truancy problem, 639 00:37:56,500 --> 00:38:00,539 particularly for boys in the 13 to 15 age range. 640 00:38:01,180 --> 00:38:02,977 What measures would you put in place 641 00:38:03,060 --> 00:38:05,369 to help motivate these boys to attend? 642 00:38:07,300 --> 00:38:08,449 Sara, what's the matter? 643 00:38:08,620 --> 00:38:10,690 You've been acting really weird the last couple of days. 644 00:38:10,780 --> 00:38:11,769 What is it? Talk to me. 645 00:38:15,340 --> 00:38:16,329 Not here. 646 00:38:35,860 --> 00:38:39,694 I honestly have no recollection of ever having met this man. 647 00:38:41,860 --> 00:38:43,532 Okay, no problem. 648 00:38:44,020 --> 00:38:47,251 Can we go back then, to when you left Klein Egerton? 649 00:38:47,860 --> 00:38:51,011 When we spoke to you before, you implied that 650 00:38:51,100 --> 00:38:53,568 - you'd just had a change of heart? - I had. 651 00:38:53,700 --> 00:38:55,213 We then spoke to 652 00:38:56,100 --> 00:38:58,568 a Hugh Moray, who was a colleague of yours at the bank? 653 00:38:59,340 --> 00:39:01,058 We sensed from him that 654 00:39:01,140 --> 00:39:03,290 actually there was more to your departure than that. 655 00:39:03,580 --> 00:39:04,569 You sensed? 656 00:39:04,660 --> 00:39:06,173 He seemed reluctant to talk about it. 657 00:39:06,740 --> 00:39:08,537 Well, he always was a decent guy. 658 00:39:08,660 --> 00:39:09,649 Because he covered your back? 659 00:39:10,500 --> 00:39:12,536 Because he respected my privacy. 660 00:39:14,140 --> 00:39:16,256 So, when did you start training to become a lawyer? 661 00:39:17,860 --> 00:39:18,849 Later that year. 662 00:39:20,700 --> 00:39:23,260 That's October, 1990. 663 00:39:23,340 --> 00:39:27,652 That's according to your company website. 664 00:39:27,740 --> 00:39:28,729 That sounds about right. 665 00:39:28,860 --> 00:39:30,657 So what did you do in the seven months off? 666 00:39:31,420 --> 00:39:32,409 Where were you living? 667 00:39:32,620 --> 00:39:33,609 Why does it matter? 668 00:39:36,020 --> 00:39:38,534 Okay. It matters Colin, because I want to know 669 00:39:38,620 --> 00:39:40,178 where you were and what you were doing, 670 00:39:40,260 --> 00:39:41,818 when David Walker was murdered. 671 00:39:48,380 --> 00:39:50,575 You won't know this, but 672 00:39:52,140 --> 00:39:53,334 my partner and I... 673 00:39:53,420 --> 00:39:57,459 My husband, are in the final stages of adopting a child. 674 00:39:57,940 --> 00:40:01,250 And whilst I've... 675 00:40:02,860 --> 00:40:05,613 I've never been dishonest with the adoption authorities, 676 00:40:05,940 --> 00:40:11,253 there is one fact that I haven't told them about, 677 00:40:12,540 --> 00:40:15,657 and I truly believe that it has no bearing whatsoever 678 00:40:15,740 --> 00:40:18,652 on my capabilities as a potential father. 679 00:40:26,340 --> 00:40:30,094 I left Klein Egerton because I had a breakdown and 680 00:40:31,620 --> 00:40:35,169 from early May until September 1990, 681 00:40:35,260 --> 00:40:39,856 I was sectioned in the Maudsley Hospital in South London. 682 00:40:43,940 --> 00:40:45,453 I'm sorry to hear that. 683 00:40:47,220 --> 00:40:50,576 And there would be medical records to confirm this, would there? 684 00:40:50,660 --> 00:40:51,649 Yes. 685 00:40:53,100 --> 00:40:55,250 And you were sectioned because you were 686 00:40:55,340 --> 00:40:57,410 considered to be a danger to yourself or... 687 00:40:57,500 --> 00:40:59,491 Danger to myself, yes. No one else. 688 00:41:00,140 --> 00:41:01,129 And this... 689 00:41:01,220 --> 00:41:03,688 This breakdown was caused by what? 690 00:41:04,260 --> 00:41:09,459 I had a history of anxiety and stress and 691 00:41:10,020 --> 00:41:12,011 it just came to a head. 692 00:41:12,820 --> 00:41:15,732 Can you remember exactly when this was, when you went in? 693 00:41:18,620 --> 00:41:21,612 Well, the date you're sectioned is not a date you easily forget. 694 00:41:23,860 --> 00:41:25,896 Sixth of May, 1990. 695 00:41:34,300 --> 00:41:35,289 A pretty solid alibi. 696 00:41:35,900 --> 00:41:37,891 Fancy a quick coffee, pick the bones out of that? 697 00:41:38,900 --> 00:41:42,529 Yeah. Er, actually, I've got a date down here. 698 00:41:42,700 --> 00:41:45,612 So you head back, I'll get the train, and maybe we can discuss later? 699 00:41:45,700 --> 00:41:48,214 Mmm. Yeah, no, right, well, fine. 700 00:41:48,620 --> 00:41:50,258 I'm sorry. I didn't know she'd respond in... 701 00:41:50,340 --> 00:41:52,137 No. No. No. I have got to meet Walker's son, so... 702 00:41:53,940 --> 00:41:54,929 Yeah, we'll talk later. 703 00:41:56,220 --> 00:41:57,209 I can give you a call about nine? 704 00:41:58,580 --> 00:41:59,569 Yeah, only if that suits you. 705 00:42:00,020 --> 00:42:01,612 Yeah. No. I'm sure it does. 706 00:42:02,820 --> 00:42:03,809 Good luck. 707 00:42:04,660 --> 00:42:05,649 Thanks. 708 00:42:17,060 --> 00:42:19,699 Everything's absolutely fine, I promise. 709 00:42:19,780 --> 00:42:21,213 But do the police think she did anything? 710 00:42:21,300 --> 00:42:24,531 Absolutely not, they just have to ask difficult questions 711 00:42:24,660 --> 00:42:26,935 of everyone who ever knew him, it's just procedure. 712 00:42:28,820 --> 00:42:29,809 You want a snack? 713 00:42:29,900 --> 00:42:31,413 - No, thanks. - Okay. 714 00:42:31,500 --> 00:42:33,252 Well, crack on with your revision. 715 00:42:46,020 --> 00:42:49,057 The police came to see me at the school the other day. 716 00:42:49,180 --> 00:42:52,058 They're investigating the murder of a man in 1990, 717 00:42:52,140 --> 00:42:55,177 who they believed I had a connection with. 718 00:42:59,380 --> 00:43:01,689 And I know nothing about how he died, but 719 00:43:04,100 --> 00:43:05,977 I probably did know him. 720 00:43:10,540 --> 00:43:12,292 And I knew him... 721 00:43:16,220 --> 00:43:17,209 Because 722 00:43:19,500 --> 00:43:21,570 many years before I met you, 723 00:43:24,300 --> 00:43:27,178 and at a very low point in my life, 724 00:43:31,420 --> 00:43:32,819 I'd had sex with him 725 00:43:36,900 --> 00:43:37,889 for money. 726 00:44:24,220 --> 00:44:25,209 You all right? 727 00:44:25,580 --> 00:44:26,569 Yeah. 728 00:44:27,940 --> 00:44:29,259 You want me to come in? 729 00:44:29,340 --> 00:44:30,614 No. Thank you. 730 00:44:36,860 --> 00:44:38,896 Take as long as you need. 731 00:01:57,500 --> 00:02:01,500 Ripped and Corrected By mstoll March 2017 732 00:44:40,500 --> 00:44:44,500 Ripped and Corrected By mstoll Released on www.Addic7ed.com